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"summary": "Archie Abrams, VP of Product and Head of Growth at Shopify, discusses how Shopify approaches growth fundamentally differently from most companies. Rather than optimizing for retention, Shopify lowers barriers to entry and accepts natural churn, betting on a power-law distribution where few merchants become massive successes. The company runs long-term holdout experiments tracking GMV cohorts over years rather than quarters. Core product teams don't use metrics or KPIs—decisions are driven by Tobi's 100-year vision and taste-based judgment. Growth teams operate with absolute number goals rather than conversion rates. This contrarian approach requires strong founder conviction and is enabled by Shopify's unique revenue model where payments are tied directly to merchant success.",
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"100-year vision guiding product decisions",
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"Intentional tension between core and growth teams",
"Incrementality testing vs. multi-touch attribution"
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"title": "Shopify's Scale and Business Model Foundation",
"summary": "Overview of Shopify's size (10% of US e-commerce, $235B GMV in 2023) and unique monetization model based on merchant success rather than pure subscription revenue.",
"timestamp_start": "00:00:00",
"timestamp_end": "00:05:08",
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"title": "Why Shopify Optimizes for Churn Instead of Retention",
"summary": "Shopify's contrarian approach: rather than retaining every merchant, they lower barriers to entry and accept that most businesses will fail. The business model works because revenue is tied to merchant success through payments, not subscriptions. A few winners make the entire cohort profitable.",
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"title": "Cohort Value Metrics and Long-Term Accountability",
"summary": "Growth is measured by tracking total GMV generated by merchant cohorts over 3-5 years, not quarterly metrics. This long-term view allows teams to understand true impact and avoid short-term optimizations that don't drive lasting value.",
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"title": "Long-Term Holdout Experiments and Surprising Findings",
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"title": "Monetary Friction as a Growth Lever",
"summary": "One of Shopify's biggest growth wins comes from reducing monetary friction (trials, incentives, pricing) early in merchant journey. Counterintuitively, this attracts entrepreneurs who might otherwise give up, leading to long-term success despite appearing as lower quality initially.",
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"title": "Absolute Numbers Over Conversion Rates",
"summary": "Shopify teams optimize for absolute number of merchants reaching key milestones, not conversion rates. Focusing on rates incentivizes making the previous funnel step harder. Lowering friction, though it reduces conversion rates, increases absolute downstream volume.",
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"title": "Shopify Growth Organization Structure",
"summary": "Growth is organized into two main groups: Growth R&D (product, design, engineering, data) with three pillars (growth products, enable/tooling, customer support), and Growth Marketing (paid acquisition, SEO, email, affiliates). Customer support is embedded in growth to support full merchant journey.",
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"title": "Metrics and Goals for Different Growth Teams",
"summary": "All growth teams are measured on cohort value (total GMV from acquired cohort over 3-4 years) and payback guardrails. This absolute value metric, rather than conversion rates, aligns teams to think about total impact rather than local optimization.",
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"title": "Core Product Strategy and 100-Year Vision",
"summary": "Core product builds for 100-year future based on Tobi's vision, not quarterly metrics. Decisions driven by taste and intuition. Technical architecture is heavily debated—the 'how' determines strategy. This requires an opinionated founder with strong taste to prevent haphazard building.",
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"title": "No Metrics or KPIs in Core Product Teams",
"summary": "Core product teams don't have metrics or OKRs. Instead, decisions are made through data, qualitative feedback, and taste. This contrasts sharply with growth teams that have metrics. Success depends on strong taste and central review (Glen as quality gatekeeper).",
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"title": "GSD System and Project Approval Process",
"summary": "Shopify uses an internal project management system called GSD (Get Shit Done). Every project requires 'okay-to' approval from group leads (Glen for core, Carl for merchant services, Archie for growth). Every six weeks, all leaders review all projects with Tobi to align on vision and resolve disagreements.",
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"summary": "Core and growth teams are intentionally structured to be 'at odds,' with core focused on long-term product quality and growth focused on short-term wins. Success depends on mutual respect, clear communication, and building trust that both teams will maintain quality standards.",
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"title": "Avoiding Wizards: How Core and Growth Align",
"summary": "Core product avoids onboarding wizards despite growth's belief they drive activation. Instead, both teams collaborate to implement wizard principles (simplification) directly into the core product. Example: pre-configured sections in store editor rather than a wizard flow.",
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"title": "Requirements for Operating Without Metrics in Core",
"summary": "Either use metrics for accountability, or have extremely strong founder with clear taste. Shopify has Tobi. Without one of these, teams drift into haphazard building. Most companies will be more successful with metrics than trying to replicate Tobi's taste.",
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"title": "Integrating Sales with Self-Service Growth",
"summary": "As Shopify added sales motion for enterprise customers, growth had to rethink strategy. Key learning: scale makes quantitative data harder to use. Built qualitative insights with sales/merchant success teams. Created hybrid journeys allowing merchants to move between self-service and sales paths.",
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"title": "Attribution and Incrementality Testing Across Channels",
"summary": "Multi-touch attribution breaks in hybrid sales/self-service model. Shopify pivots toward incrementality testing (showing/not showing ads to measure causal impact). This allows sophisticated bidding and budgeting across channels regardless of merchant path (self-service vs. sales).",
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"title": "Distributed Marketing Model Without CMO",
"summary": "Shopify doesn't have a CMO. Instead, marketing is embedded across the org: growth marketing in growth, revenue marketing with sales, brand with Harley (president), PMM with core product, shop marketing on consumer side. This works because Tobi and Harley have clear brand intuition.",
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"title": "Discounting as a Growth and Signaling Lever",
"summary": "From Udemy experience: discounting signals value. High list price ($100) signals quality, deep discount ($10) signals affordability. Urgency drives emotional progress in education (purchasing feels like progress). Works because discounting taps into aspirational human behavior.",
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"title": "Onboarding and Sign-Up as Biggest Growth Lever",
"summary": "Collecting more information in sign-up, personalizing onboarding guidance, and clear trust-building in early experience have massive long-term impact on retention and merchant success. Overlooked by many, but one of most impactful growth tactics Shopify has found.",
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"title": "Payment Failure Notifications and Pull-Forward Effects",
"summary": "Example of short-term win with no long-term effect: improved payment failure notifications showed lift but no downstream GMV impact. Merchants letting payments fail weren't committed; notification just moved them up, not added value. Illustrates pull-forward bias in short-term metrics.",
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"text": "When teams optimize for conversion rates within their funnel stage, they often implicitly make it harder for the previous stage to succeed, because the easiest way to increase their conversion rate is to constrict who enters their stage.",
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"text": "30-40% of experiments showing short-term lift have no long-term effect on GMV. This is typically a pull-forward effect where you're converting people who would have converted anyway, just earlier.",
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"text": "Reducing monetary friction (trial length, pricing, incentives) can unlock a class of merchants who would have given up without the extra breathing room, leading to better long-term outcomes despite appearing as lower quality initially.",
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"text": "The technical architecture of how you build something is as important or more important to long-term strategy than what you build or who you build for. The right technical foundation creates optionality.",
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"text": "Most successful companies either use metrics as the primary accountability mechanism, or have an extremely opinionated founder with clear taste. Without one of these, teams drift into building whatever they want without alignment.",
"context": "Explaining why Shopify's no-metrics-in-core approach is rare and risky",
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"text": "Making it easier to sign up (reducing friction) will hurt your signup-to-activated conversion rate, but increase absolute number of people who get activated downstream because CAC goes down and you can spend more.",
"context": "On why absolute numbers trump conversion rates",
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"text": "For pre-configured product templates: they didn't drive signup conversion, but 6 months later had massive impact on GMV because people who used them built better stores, converted their first customer, and kept entrepreneurship momentum.",
"context": "Example of neutral short-term experiment becoming big long-term win",
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"id": "insight_8",
"text": "A business model based on merchant success (payment revenue) rather than pure subscription allows you to accept churn because your winners generate so much value they make the entire cohort profitable.",
"context": "Why Shopify's approach to churn is unique",
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"text": "Even if an experiment shows neutral short-term lift, if the intuition and theory are sound, ship it. You're unlikely to harm the business, and if your theory is right, long-term effects will show up.",
"context": "On shipping neutral experiments",
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"text": "If you want to run long-term holdout experiments but can't wait years, at least measure as deep in the funnel and as long as you can. If you can't do that, ship things showing short-term lift but don't overestimate the impact.",
"context": "Practical advice for companies without 3+ year experiment infrastructure",
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"text": "Core product decisions are heavily influenced by technical architecture choices because architecture determines what's possible and flexible in the future. Spending time on the right technical foundation is worth shipping slower.",
"context": "Why Tobi invests heavily in how things are built",
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"text": "In marketing, embedding teams within business units (growth marketing with growth, revenue marketing with sales) allows faster movement and closer alignment to goals than centralizing under a CMO, but only works if founder has strong brand intuition.",
"context": "On Shopify's distributed marketing model",
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"text": "Discounting works by signaling quality through high list price, then making it affordable through discount. The emotional job of purchasing (feeling like making progress) is often more important than actually consuming the product.",
"context": "From Udemy experience with online courses",
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"text": "Good onboarding and sign-up—collecting the right information, personalizing guidance, building trust—has surprising long-term impact on merchant success and churn, even though it seems obvious.",
"context": "On underrated growth levers",
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"text": "All experiments should be tracked 3, 6, 9, and 12 months out, with automatic notifications to experimenters. This creates accountability and prevents teams from just celebrating short-term wins.",
"context": "On building experimentation discipline",
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"text": "The best way to increase merchant onboarding is often to get more people in the door in the first place by reducing friction, even though it hurts conversion rates. The absolute volume matters more than the rate.",
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"text": "When integrating sales and self-service, attribution becomes extremely complicated. Multi-touch attribution doesn't capture causation. Incrementality testing (showing/not showing ads to measure true impact) is the gold standard.",
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"text": "The tension between core product (long-term quality focus) and growth (short-term wins) should be intentional and built into org structure. Success requires mutual respect, clear communication, and trust that both teams will maintain standards.",
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"text": "Payment failure notifications showed strong short-term lift but no long-term effect because merchants letting payments fail weren't truly committed to entrepreneurship anyway. The notification just moved committed people forward by a few weeks.",
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"Long-form storytelling",
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"explicit_text": "When we looked longer term on that six months later, [pre-configured store sections] it had a pretty massive impact on the number of people who were selling and producing GMV... it didn't likely really influence anyone to buy Shopify... But the people who used it created better stores that were higher converting",
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"Store editor",
"Product templates",
"Long-term experiments",
"GMV impact",
"Conversion optimization"
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"explicit_text": "One good example is something around payment failure notifications... You look back six, 12 months. There was really no long-term lift... people who were letting that payment fail probably weren't actually that dedicated to this entrepreneurship craft",
"inferred_identity": "Shopify (payment failure notification experiment)",
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"Shopify",
"Payments",
"Churn reduction",
"Dunning",
"Long-term experiments",
"Pull-forward effect",
"No lasting impact"
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"explicit_text": "a 30-minute discussion about how to build CSV importers for people coming over from different platforms... are we using open source library, doing it internally, are we doing it in the core code base? Are we building a separate first party app?",
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"Data migration",
"Technical architecture",
"Open source",
"Core product",
"Platform design",
"Long-term thinking"
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"explicit_text": "Brian Chesky at Airbnb... he also had this idea of the 100-year vision... Since he's a designer, he had a very different focus... he's really focused on the experience and making sure the design is amazing",
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"Brian Chesky",
"Design-focused",
"100-year vision",
"Leadership style",
"Founder-mode",
"Travel/hospitality"
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"lesson": "Founder strengths dictate strategy: Tobi (engineer) focuses on technical architecture; Brian (designer) focuses on experience. Each founder leans into their expertise and what their business needs most.",
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"explicit_text": "Glen, who's heads of core product... they go incredibly deep into every single release that is shipped",
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"tags": [
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"Glen",
"Core product leadership",
"Quality gatekeeper",
"Taste enforcement",
"Project review"
],
"lesson": "Centralized taste enforcement: appointing one person (Glen) to deeply review every core release maintains quality and consistency without metrics, preventing subjective drift.",
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{
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"explicit_text": "every six weeks all the R&D group leads we get together and we sit with Tobi and each other and review every single project across the company",
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"Tobi",
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"Governance",
"Cross-org alignment",
"Leadership meetings",
"Cadence"
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"explicit_text": "the list price would be high at 100 bucks. So it's associated with a college course. But what people really value this thing as was a book. And so you could signal very high, signal quality through price, which was very murky at that point in online learning",
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"explicit_text": "That's why we take it. It's like, wow, okay, now we really uncovered something and it's such a successful discovery. Wow, okay, we thought this thing. But now we learned it actually wasn't as true as we thought. Cool. What can we take from that and be smarter next time",
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